Frustrated early on, because I lost two flies in the first 10 minutes. I understand using a lighter dry as the indicator for a dropper, but I have a hard time seeing it (especially in certain light), which makes it ineffective as an indicator. I much prefer a hopper or chubby atop a dropper, perhaps I will tie some high-vis parachutes to see if it helps with my problem. The perdigon seems to be great. I saw a juicy juicy hole with over 30+ fish in it, and not a single one of them was interested in eating. It was such a site that I couldn't even be mad, it was simply amusing.